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dan_the_computer_man
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TA900e Not enough memory for T900E2A-R11-9-0-E.biz when T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz is already loaded and is Primary.

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We are unable to upload the latest firmware due to memory shortage.

1. We deleted the backup firmware.

2. T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz is set for Primary, None as Secondary.

3. Unable to upload firmware T900E2A-R11-9-0-E.biz due to lack of free space.

4. Unable to upload firmware T900E2A-R11-9-0-E.biz due to lack of free space even when trying to replace primary.

5. Error Message: "Error writing file(s): out of disk space: .webuploadfile0"

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Re: TA900e Not enough memory for T900E2A-R11-9-0-E.biz when T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz is already loaded and is Primary.

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As per Jon H:

Our firmware packages include Feature releases and Maintenance releases.

R11.4.5 is our current maintenance release and is what we would recommend for most deployments. In particular if you are doing SIP to PRI or SIP to FXS

R11.8.0 & R11.9.0 are feature releases. Feature releases depending upon what is added could

consume more memory. If there is a feature that you know you require, upgrading to a feature release would make sense, but otherwise the maintenance release is what should be loaded.

The reason for the distinction of Feature releases and Maintenance releases, is that it allows, Adtran to control our software code, while fixing issues and introducing new features. We could have one set of engineers working on a feature that is R11.8.0, and another group working on a different feature in R11.9.0. Meanwhile any bugs that uncovered, are repaired in the maintenance release. Eventually a feature release will get rolled into the maintenance release.

So the point is looking at the numerical name of the firmware image , does not ensure that you

have all of the latest fixes. The release date is more accurate.

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Re: TA900e Not enough memory for T900E2A-R11-9-0-E.biz when T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz is already loaded and is Primary.

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Do a "show flash" command and see if there are other files taking up space in flash that can be deleted such as crash dumps, logs, etc. Also, there may be a third original firmware that has an unusual filename that you can delete. When the TA900e ships from the factory, its firmware has a strange  filename that doesn't look like the conventional ones from the Adtran download site. If so and it's older than T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz you can delete it and that should free up space. The second generation comes with 32 MB of flash, so both R11-8-0 and R11-9-0 should fit but it will be tight.

What does the output of "show flash" look like?

If after you've deleted all unused files to make room there still isn't enough free space, it's possible to delete the running image from flash and then upload the new one. This was a common issue with early Gen.1 hardware. Two images wouldn't fit. The box only reads the image from flash while booting, then it runs from RAM so deleting the running image from flash won't cause it to stop working but it won't be able to boot again should it crash if there is no image in flash.

Note that if the box loses power or reboots after you've deleted the running R11-8-0 image, it can't be recovered over the network. You'll have to connect to the console port and the procedure is cumbersome. So, be careful, best to have the machine on a UPS, and somewhat risky to do remotely but I've done it remotely without incident multiple times. Make sure you change the boot parameters to reflect the new primary once you've got it loaded.

Re: TA900e Not enough memory for T900E2A-R11-9-0-E.biz when T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz is already loaded and is Primary.

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TA908e#show flash

(dir)      1024 coeff

           5413 startup-config

           5413 startup-config.bak

       15805183 T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz

(dir)      1024 Tones

16097583 bytes used, 15670467 available, 31768050 total

It looks like there just isn't enough memory to hold both.

Re: TA900e Not enough memory for T900E2A-R11-9-0-E.biz when T900E2A-R11-8-0-E.biz is already loaded and is Primary.

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As per Jon H:

Our firmware packages include Feature releases and Maintenance releases.

R11.4.5 is our current maintenance release and is what we would recommend for most deployments. In particular if you are doing SIP to PRI or SIP to FXS

R11.8.0 & R11.9.0 are feature releases. Feature releases depending upon what is added could

consume more memory. If there is a feature that you know you require, upgrading to a feature release would make sense, but otherwise the maintenance release is what should be loaded.

The reason for the distinction of Feature releases and Maintenance releases, is that it allows, Adtran to control our software code, while fixing issues and introducing new features. We could have one set of engineers working on a feature that is R11.8.0, and another group working on a different feature in R11.9.0. Meanwhile any bugs that uncovered, are repaired in the maintenance release. Eventually a feature release will get rolled into the maintenance release.

So the point is looking at the numerical name of the firmware image , does not ensure that you

have all of the latest fixes. The release date is more accurate.

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